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BURNLEY striker Ashley Barnes claims getting lumps kicked out of him in non-league football has made him the player he is today.
She was fourth - beaten only 15 wickets - by Quevega in the mares' event at the Cheltenham Festival in March and, getting lumps of weight from all the previous winners, this talented mare has to be the each-way play.
I teach evasion, not getting lumps knocked off you," says Ingle, putting on for me a five-man demonstration of switching styles through orthodox, southpaw, square-on and side-on.
He's taken on Denman before off level weights and admittedly came off second best, but there's a big difference between taking a horse on at levels and when you're getting lumps of weight.
While he was getting lumps of weight from the winner, Jump City put up a good fight in going down by just over three lengths and emerged with plenty of credit.
DAVID TEMPLETON first sampled life in the lower leagues as a 16-year-old kid - getting lumps knocked out of him by battlehardened veterans old enough to be his father.
However, he was very impressive beating Copper Bleu on his hurdling debut at Doncaster, albeit getting lumps of weight, and is now a serious candidate for festival honours.